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quillotine



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mystery from Belgium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmzzPu32nO0

A lot of French metal band from the 80's had some pop elements in their music (nothing wrong with that, I'm a huge french metal fan). A good example is Satan Jokers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_jcBjlwTs
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trve Werwolf castlevania soundtrack cover was cool, but for the Gods sake, stop calling that Black Metal... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rthdx wrote:
The trve Werwolf castlevania soundtrack cover was cool, but for the Gods sake, stop calling that Black Metal... Rolling Eyes


What's that? I'm a huge Castlevania fan (the games and the music).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdBCoeSYb00
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Candlemass wrote:
rthdx wrote:
The trve Werwolf castlevania soundtrack cover was cool, but for the Gods sake, stop calling that Black Metal... Rolling Eyes


What's that? I'm a huge Castlevania fan (the games and the music).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdBCoeSYb00

Have no key what's the game is, but was really impressed by the honesty of the author (coverer) where actually are growing legs of his BM.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Brooklyn Bastard 666 wrote:
Pop Metal is Bon Jovi, Poison, Def Lep etc.


Back in the days we used to call this "hard rock". But I guess we had no clue at all.


We used to call them Heavy Metal. Hard Rock came from 70's bands like Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quillotine wrote:
A lot of French metal band from the 80's had some pop elements in their music (nothing wrong with that, I'm a huge french metal fan). A good example is Satan Jokers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_jcBjlwTs


This is the worst drawback of 80's French Metal IMO, along with some shameful lyrics -later SORTILÈGE comes to mind. It worked only in a few cases like BLASPHÈME and PONCE PILATE, though.

I don't know if 80's SCORPIONS fall into this category, but Love at First Sting is a fave of mine.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heirophant.326.AV wrote:
While Its obviously not the kind of stuff my band does (in fact the total opposite), I've always had a huge amount of respect for people like Mike Stock, Matt Aitken, and Pete Waterman's songwriting factory. Or the old Tin Pan Alley stuff. Or Lennon/Mcartney as a songwriting team, same goes for the Wilson brothers from the Beach Boys.

its hard as fuck to write an "earworm" song - something that will stick in your head because of the hook and chord progression. Let alone to do that and actually say something with a shred of artistic integrity.

I'm not interested in defending my cult cred enough to the point where I dont say that something like "a day in the life" is a magnificent achievement because it combines really clever chord changes, interesting and totally innovative at the time production techniques with lyrics that were totally in-and-of their time.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xeniteia wrote:
quillotine wrote:
A lot of French metal band from the 80's had some pop elements in their music (nothing wrong with that, I'm a huge french metal fan). A good example is Satan Jokers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_jcBjlwTs


This is the worst drawback of 80's French Metal IMO, along with some shameful lyrics -later SORTILÈGE comes to mind. It worked only in a few cases like BLASPHÈME and PONCE PILATE, though.

I don't know if 80's SCORPIONS fall into this category, but Love at First Sting is a fave of mine.


Excess' Melting Point is one of my favorite 80s metal records, and it sounds incredibly of the 80s. It's pretty melodic and definitely has a hard rock (pop metal?) tinge to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xeniteia wrote:
quillotine wrote:
A lot of French metal band from the 80's had some pop elements in their music (nothing wrong with that, I'm a huge french metal fan). A good example is Satan Jokers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ_jcBjlwTs


This is the worst drawback of 80's French Metal IMO, along with some shameful lyrics -later SORTILÈGE comes to mind. It worked only in a few cases like BLASPHÈME and PONCE PILATE, though.

I don't know if 80's SCORPIONS fall into this category, but Love at First Sting is a fave of mine.


Not Scorpions really. A bit in the 90's with "Wind of Change".
Black Out and Love at First Sting are OK although I prefer early Scorpions.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a thread Opeth belongs in. Also perhaps this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVVfuGuolD0&list=PL128875337921BF11&index=3
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bakeneko wrote:
Not Scorpions really. A bit in the 90's with "Wind of Change".
Black Out and Love at First Sting are OK although I prefer early Scorpions.


I do prefer early SCORPIONS for many reasons, but this period of the band is more like good wine : refined, classy, subtle. Sometimes one needs something more basic yet efficient, like BBQ, simple good beer and a good Metal or HR record. Love at First Sting is great for this! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rthdx wrote:
Don't think that mentioning Rock (even "Hard") stuff is suitable in context of the thread, eventhough some is definitely good... And really surprised someone here had balls to say he appreciate Queen, btw. Smile


Balls nothing. Queen had (IMHO) the best frontman in the history of rock music and some seriously heavy songs, particularly on Queen 2.

On topic Scorpions gets my vote. I don't think I'd consider them pop metal until Roth left the band though.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rthdx wrote:
The trve Werwolf castlevania soundtrack cover was cool, but for the Gods sake, stop calling that Black Metal... Rolling Eyes


Game Metal Idea
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dont mean to sound like a queer or nothin, but Depesche Mode is a pretty sweet band Very Happy


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