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Diacosmesis
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| Quote: | | But people get vexed as soon as one tell them they listen to unartistic bands (which I of course listen to as well), just like if listening to whatever rock/metal band was like fighting for their honour. I remember when on a French webzine I stated about a black metal band that I like it wasn't art; and members started to tell me they wanted to meet me to explode my head, haha. |
It's because metal fans and/or artists unfortunately lack of insight on their own music (having one's nose to the grindstone, and listening nothing but metal). It's the same thing in every other genres.
But (to clarify my point) when I say that "rock/metal are basically not art", I don't say it's "shitty music", I say it's a music that have been done to be fundamentally incorrect, a music which don't care about concept, esthetism, form, in short all the criterias of art music - and that's why we love it.
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Manta
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I have liked every metal "classic," there is not one album or record that I can think of dismissing. It all felt new, fresh, extraordinary. To me it was so easy to appreciate that. In a way it felt like the best music anyone could create.
Ultimately, heavy metal is good music. That's what it is to me and that's what I call it. |
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holy ghost
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Man I like art and shit, but I could give a right fuck if people consider metal to be 'art'.
The discussion itself borders on preposterous. Who decides what "art" is?
And more importantly, who gives a fuck.... |
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CR99
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Stalinorgel wrote: | | SWO wrote: | 
Respect what they did for metal, I just can't get into them. |
I can understand that to some degree, it also took me years to fully appreciate them. |
Same here. "Killing Technology" was one of the first metal LPs I got and it took me several years to get into it - it's definately not for starters. But "Tornado" is one of the best songs ever!
The first two are easier, especially the debut. Maybe try again with those? |
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eighthplague
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:59 am Post subject: |
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First Voivod I got was Nothingface and it blew my mind. Nothing else really compared to that one for me, although I like War & Pain well enough I suppose.
Is there a Voivod album that is similar to Nothingface that I've missed, perhaps? |
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under a funeral shroom
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Piotr Sargnagel wrote: | | Wolfram wrote: | | Everything by Venom... |
There are going to be a lot of twisted panties over this one |
I respect Venom and their place in history and all of that, but I never have the urge to listen to them. |
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little_raven
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| holy ghost wrote: |
The discussion itself borders on preposterous. Who decides what "art" is?
And more importantly, who gives a fuck.... |
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Vanitas
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I just don't get it.
Also heavy metal and power metal in general. |
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wirelessdarkness
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Vanitas wrote: |
I just don't get it.
Also heavy metal and power metal in general. |
Kind of a shocking one to me. Is there any MA you like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2EAo90fGzE |
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Hallucinogen
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Vanitas wrote: |
I just don't get it.
Also heavy metal and power metal in general. |
This has a lot to do with age/experience/exposure. When I was 18 I didn't like Morbid Angel/heavy metal either. |
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Vanitas
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:49 am Post subject: |
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28 years old here, in metal since 12.
Yeah, I love Gateways.
I'm not so much of a fan of American death metal, except Immolation. |
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mithrandir
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| Vanitas wrote: |
I'm not so much of a fan of American death metal, except Immolation. |
the most 2ndtier USDM band of them all! |
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Vanitas
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Huh?
I really think those two can be compared and I even remember there was a poll here asking who's better, Immolation or Morbid Angel.
Immo, CC and MA are the top three USDM bands of all time for me, although I like only one of those. |
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heavymetalsteve
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I hate everything pile of shit emperor has ever shat out.
Can't stand bay area thrash. I do like old Slayer and Peace Sells and can tolerate some Megadeth but otherwise I dislike the bay area stuff.
All Anthrax except Fistfull of Metal.
I hate Demigod and Demilich. Too disonant and boring to me. Finnish death metal in general doesn't interest me.
I can't stand Death, even the earliest stuff. I personally think Chuck's "songwriting" was terrible. Sure he could play well but the songwriting on most of the albums(especially the later stuff) sucked and the the first two while being less bad are nothing special to me.
Gorguts Obscura, too unhinged, random and lacking any cohesion for me. Feels way too disjointed. |
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EK Nacht
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| mithrandir wrote: | | Vanitas wrote: |
I'm not so much of a fan of American death metal, except Immolation. |
the most 2ndtier USDM band of them all! |
Too true! |
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