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Heirophant.326.AV
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| asmael LeBouc wrote: | | Exitium wrote: | | Emil Cioran. |
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Literary genius of the XXth century.
And Michel Houellebecq for his visionary and acid view on the misery of the Western Man. It is, however, filled with so many typically French references that foreign readers would miss many tasty bits. Unless ones very familiar with French contemporary culture.
Let's mention the philosophers Kirkegaard and PASCAL now shall we? |
I'm curious about that statement. I discovered Houellebecq through his H.P Lovecraft: against the world, against life (which definitely qualifies for this discussion). I cant say that I found anything massively jarring or inexplicable in Atomized, but perhaps my (otherwise fairly redundant) undergrad degree in continental philosophy is sufficient to grant that level of familiarity with the writers he refers to (Derrida, Lacan, foucault etc) and the post 68 trends in French thought?
Speaking of French writing, The Kindly Ones/Les Bienveillantes is a good look into nihilism. I say French even though Littell is American - it was writen and published in French so I think it qualifies.
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| Grendel by John Gardner |
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| Good facebook groups and pages on Misanthropy? |
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Heirophant.326.AV
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| BaronOvHell wrote: | | Grendel by John Gardner |
Grendel by Matt Wagner if you are into comics.
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| Deströyer wrote: | | Thanks, I'm familiar with a lot of this stuff already. By "literature" I didn't necessarily mean fiction. Was wondering if there is anything more academic, less poetic, on the subject...? |
If you're looking for someone to make a worthwhile academic argument for being misanthropic you're going to be looking for a long time. Most philosophers/academics/logicians tend to err on the side of cautioning against such a worldview w/ the anchor that a true abhorrence of mankind advances neither the individual nor the society, culture, group, etc...
That said, Notes from Underground  Seriously though it sounds like you're looking for something like Dostoyevsky. |
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| cultofvomit wrote: | | J. K. Huysman-A Rebours (i didn't like it, actually) |
I recently finished La Bas, and I'd say it radiates misanthropy. Very good read.
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| astralvesl wrote: | | If you're looking for someone to make a worthwhile academic argument for being misanthropic you're going to be looking for a long time. |
Never said I was looking for books/essays written BY "misanthropes"...
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astralvesl
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| Deströyer wrote: | | astralvesl wrote: | | If you're looking for someone to make a worthwhile academic argument for being misanthropic you're going to be looking for a long time. |
Never said I was looking for books/essays written BY "misanthropes"... |
Well you don't have to be a misanthrope to make an argument for being misanthropic. I assumed that by more academic you meant an evaluation of the topic in a scholarly sense, which, in my opinion, is most effectively analyzed from a psychological perspective. |
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| Heirophant.326.AV wrote: | Thomas Ligotti - "the conspiracy against the human race".
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This.
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| Heirophant.326.AV wrote: | | BaronOvHell wrote: | | Grendel by John Gardner |
Grendel by Matt Wagner if you are into comics. |
That doesn't have much to do with the thread, but those are some great comics.
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| Not in the same light as the authors mentioned here but you might want to check out issues of Jim and Debbie Goad's ANSWER Me! zine. |
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Deströyer
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| astralvesl wrote: | | Deströyer wrote: | | astralvesl wrote: | | If you're looking for someone to make a worthwhile academic argument for being misanthropic you're going to be looking for a long time. |
Never said I was looking for books/essays written BY "misanthropes"... |
Well you don't have to be a misanthrope to make an argument for being misanthropic. I assumed that by more academic you meant an evaluation of the topic in a scholarly sense, which, in my opinion, is most effectively analyzed from a psychological perspective. |
Have there been many psychological studies? That's probably more what I'm interested in.
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| In Solitude wrote: | | cultofvomit wrote: | | J. K. Huysman-A Rebours (i didn't like it, actually) |
I recently finished La Bas, and I'd say it radiates misanthropy. Very good read. |
I think it radiates the lust for life (& death). Mandatory read (both)! Fin de Siecle literature is pretty misanthropic in general...modernity's first collapse.
Arthur Rimbaud saw the decline pretty early as well.
This one wrote some pretty misanthropic stuff (but it's rather literary philosophy than genuine poetic literature):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Mainl%C3%A4nder
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| Infester wrote: | | Not in the same light as the authors mentioned here but you might want to check out issues of Jim and Debbie Goad's ANSWER Me! zine. |
The Redneck Manifesto is perfect for all you hate mongering might makes right conqueror manifesto weirdos...
| Heirophant.326.AV wrote: | | Houlebeque is pretty gay too. |
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