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Fornication



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

armour - Love crime sounds EXACTLY like WASP - Bad. they covered wasp as well so its not like it was unintentional. i dont know how someone can live with themselves stealing a riff so close and using it on a release. fuckin doughheads. there is worshiping a bands style... then playing the exact same riff! AGHHH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p7ubE4NaO4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv--IrhqXVw
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The opening riff to Black Witchery's Invincible Antichrist Victory sounds quite similar to the main riff in Obituary's Back to One
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well when you hear Watain use the DMDS riff on devils blood,ya just nod and be like "yeah...they can do that"
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fornication wrote:
armour - Love crime sounds EXACTLY like WASP - Bad. they covered wasp as well so its not like it was unintentional. i dont know how someone can live with themselves stealing a riff so close and using it on a release. fuckin doughheads. there is worshiping a bands style... then playing the exact same riff! AGHHH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p7ubE4NaO4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv--IrhqXVw


wow i never noticed it was that blatant. still worship both.

thought this thread was going to be about a band called 'riff police'. not a bad name.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hAlloween: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUkNXIrcyBM

suicidal tendencies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MngX53etUvc

highly doubt it was 'ripped off' but there you have it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fornication wrote:
armour - Love crime sounds EXACTLY like WASP - Bad. they covered wasp as well so its not like it was unintentional. i dont know how someone can live with themselves stealing a riff so close and using it on a release. fuckin doughheads. there is worshiping a bands style... then playing the exact same riff! AGHHH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p7ubE4NaO4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv--IrhqXVw


Also similar to Demon - "Sign of a Madman"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIiH_qIn_4A
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii9ayLMpFLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yva8jul5Hxg&feature=fvsr

Both Sargeist songs. I had to do a double take when I first heard Burning Voice Of Adoration. Big fan of Sargeist but this caught me by surprise.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres a later era bad religion album where the first 2 songs use exactly the same riff with exactly the same notes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sGtryDcGrI
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iscariah wrote:
HHJ wrote:
sometimes the riff stealing is in obvious tribute though


or a subconcious result for most.


this is actually the most interesting bit. I can be playing this smashing little number and think I just made it up only to at some point realize where I heard it before. and if this happens regularly then just think how often it goes unnoticed. we all bombard ourselves daily with so many riffs that it's a miracle we sometimes think up some that did not come to us from the outside. and even then what comes out of our "own" experimentation still draws on the experience of all the riffs we've heard.

it's already in the name if you want. to "riff on" something is not creating from scratch, but the variation of an idea. most of what we hear as "original" songs is probably the recombination of riffs the artist has at some point heard, and then maybe with slight variation. of course musical experssion ist much more than the single riff. it has to be tied into a song, together with other instruments, vocals, timing - all of which can make obscure that the riff is not an "original". it's a huge incest story but we don't notice it often (fritzl).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHYNOMKCSMc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgcDlqwxhl4
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fornication wrote:
armour - Love crime sounds EXACTLY like WASP - Bad. they covered wasp as well so its not like it was unintentional. i dont know how someone can live with themselves stealing a riff so close and using it on a release. fuckin doughheads. there is worshiping a bands style... then playing the exact same riff! AGHHH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p7ubE4NaO4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv--IrhqXVw


But then WASP Riffs are among the most basic riffs possible ! I also did accidently do a WASP Riff in one of my songs, I wanted it to sound like a riff of Agent Orange which was my intention, but later someone pointed out it sounds like a WASP Riff and I have to agree ....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First (Pentagram)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjCRR_nvQRE

Second (Syrach 00:39)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG6H__azQYE

Third (Essenz 04:24)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrHkdcEZJ_g&feature=related
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what the riff police thinks most hardcore punk riffs haha.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess none has ever noticed this lengthy-riff steal from :

Uli John Roth's band (Electric Sun) from a 1979 track (instrumental) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yghj_PloGI

put it to play at 4:11 of this track

and then listen

Therion - Symphony of the dead (from Beyond Sanctorum)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTonwsIdVP0

put it to play at 4:59 of the track

And there is no credit at all in Therion's album mentioning Mr. Uli John Roth.
It is the whole part that Therion have stolen it and just played it a little bit faster.


Enjoy!
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