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darksymphonies



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Just for the "Record". Reply with quote

I must say that I am really pleased about all the positive comments on the Excruciate. It means a lot to me and I am glad that the general feeling is that I have brought Justice to the album. There is however something I do want to point out to everyone for our releases in general.

A friend of mine who loved the package told me that the volume is a bit low and that I should give more volume next time. Well, the LP is low volume because I used the original 1993 Thrash Records CD recording with NO digital enhancement for our LP master like I will for all of our releases. I don't believe in remastering or using digital effects for our LPs. I like the raw, original classic sound so I plan on using original recordings for all of the Crypt releases with no remastering at all. That way the sound stays true to the original. We're basically just "dusting off" these classics, rather than re-inventing them, hence "The Crypt".

This doesn't always apply say for example if a band gives us remastered versions of their demos, as it makes sense to use them, but for albums, what you remember sound-wise from the 90's is exactly what you'll get with our releases. Just a bit warmer and nicer sounding because of the vinyl format of course. I'm not knocking digital remastering in general, just saying that you won't find any on our LPs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Lucas would NOT be proud.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Just for the "Record". Reply with quote

darksymphonies wrote:

A friend of mine who loved the package told me that the volume is a bit low and that I should give more volume next time. Well, the LP is low volume because I used the original 1993 Thrash Records CD recording with NO digital enhancement for our LP master like I will for all of our releases. I don't believe in remastering or using digital effects for our LPs. I like the raw, original classic sound so I plan on using original recordings for all of the Crypt releases with no remastering at all. That way the sound stays true to the original. We're basically just "dusting off" these classics, rather than re-inventing them, hence "The Crypt".


No need to go to the loudness war, every amp has a volume-knob so at least I prefer the sound to be as natural as possible and just turn more volume if needed. Too much remastering (and by that compressing) makes the dynamics go away, like in modern metal records. You're on the right path by keeping the volume in normal level!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vberkvlt wrote:
George Lucas would NOT be proud.
So should I THX future releases? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Just for the "Record". Reply with quote

Mikael wrote:
darksymphonies wrote:

A friend of mine who loved the package told me that the volume is a bit low and that I should give more volume next time. Well, the LP is low volume because I used the original 1993 Thrash Records CD recording with NO digital enhancement for our LP master like I will for all of our releases. I don't believe in remastering or using digital effects for our LPs. I like the raw, original classic sound so I plan on using original recordings for all of the Crypt releases with no remastering at all. That way the sound stays true to the original. We're basically just "dusting off" these classics, rather than re-inventing them, hence "The Crypt".


No need to go to the loudness war, every amp has a volume-knob so at least I prefer the sound to be as natural as possible and just turn more volume if needed. Too much remastering (and by that compressing) makes the dynamics go away, like in modern metal records. You're on the right path by keeping the volume in normal level!
Thanks, I feel that way too, and if the album is too long for LP, then just make 2 LPs Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I applaud you. Normalizing it up to near zero db maximum volume is all the mastering needed, if any. I've been a little disturbed lately to pick up reissues or compilations of old material and find that they have something like twice the apparent volume of the original versions, and are louder than even most of the new death metal albums being released. That's just a grotesque thing to do to music that was meant to be more dynamic than that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Just for the "Record". Reply with quote

darksymphonies wrote:
Thanks, I feel that way too, and if the album is too long for LP, then just make 2 LPs Smile

The optimal lenght is a bit tricky as a with a really professional (or just plain lucky) vinyl-mastering can keep the vinyl sound good, altought it's way longer than the suggestions from the factory. For example, the new Katharsis/Antaeus split 7", K has a 9 minute song on it and that's way too much for a 7", but it still sounds really good to the end, maybe the volume is lower than if it would've been pressed to 10" instead, but as said, there's a knob for it.

EDIT - I wouldn't make vinyl-master to reach 0...


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chill, everything fine with that plan. As Mikael said: volume-knob. But I really appreciate your engagement!
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